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Dazzler · Aug 24, 2005, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by ayb

thats why i never ever sell anything out in the world. i always say "talk to me after we finish the mission / kill insert boss name here. cant drop items on ground in town = don't have to worry about that.

Well ANet fixed that scam. Try it out sometimes. Open a trade window with someone out on a mission. Then close the window and try to drop something on the ground. You get a little popup message asking you if you are sure you want to drop the item.

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

First you would need a 1gps Internet connection, and a mouse tracker on the trader computer, not happening.

No you wouldn't. Regular ol' modem or broadband would work. I'm not saying the scammer would track the other person's computer. He would just do something like "wait 2 seconds then activate macro!" and hope that he does it just when the victim is going for the Accept button. 49 out of 50 times it won't work and he says something like "sorry just kidding" and moves on to the next potential victim. But if he did this for like an hour, eventually he would get lucky and time it just right and hey waddya know, he just made 20k-100k! Not a bad haul for an hour's scamming. Given what is out there, I would not be surprised if this sort of thing is being actively practiced today.

Gwahir · Aug 24, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

can you get banned for scamming anyway? Maybe somepeople like to Roleplay as a sneaky thief. Is this not allowed in guild wars?

Daegul Mistweaver · Aug 24, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

First you would need a 1gps Internet connection, and a mouse tracker on the trader computer, not happening.

I think she's refering to making a guess as to when the scamee would be moving the mouse onto accept; hence her reference to a 1 in 50 chance. Which makes this possible rather than probable, as she said. All you'd need, as pointed out, would be a proper mousing macro; which would make the change nearly instant on both sides, appearing to be a hiccup.

Edit: Dazzler's post > my typing skills.

B3H · Aug 24, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

A friend of mine was screwed out of 70k and ended up with 70gp. The guy changed it so fast that my friend had no time to respond at all. Maybe its a program?

Gamba Chimelu · Aug 24, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42

no one ever gets banned permanently for scamming, thats why they keep doing it, report whoever you want with whatever evidence you have, from what ive read the most that will happen is they may get temporary ban of a day or two

Loviatar · Aug 24, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Gwahir

can you get banned for scamming anyway? Maybe somepeople like to Roleplay as a sneaky thief. Is this not allowed in guild wars?

only if you return the item/plat and say you are just roleplaying.

otherwise you are simply a thief

tlr1293 · Aug 24, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Personally, I'm not against any of this. What say someday a game comes out where things are as close to what real life may be, in a period style game such as GW, and things just happen.

- you go to trade, they drop out, the item drops to ground, they pick up and run (then you pull out a throwing dagger, because you are an outstanding member of the Thives Guild and a dagger is a tool of your profession, and make a nice throw catching the scammer beween the shoulder blades. Better get to your item before it runs off again.

- complete open country from end to end of the 'map', real life WTF, and picture you step into a tavern, join a group to go seek revenge on the Baron who stole some guy's sster away and has placed her into some slavery bond

- you wander, make friends, enemies, fight monsters in hordes and small groups, or solo, hide behind bushes to shake the demons following you after that battle at the mouth of their cave where half your party was killed.

- magic is everywhere, but you must learn to master it - LEARN, not just run to a Wizard, click a button, protect for 2 minutes from enemies and POOF! you now know magic.

- become aknight with the king's army to advance on another king's country, only to get lost on a recon mission - ending up near some cave where a bunch of bones are scattered about, hearing strange noises coming from within and succumbing to the same demons you barely escaped 6 months earlier

- you then find out that whe you die, you really do not die, but end up transported to another part of the known map (keep dieing and you just might get back to where you first started) - every where is a new learning experience within the same world

I could keep going, but you get the idea - an actual alternate world where crap happens and you deal with it. GW is a great game and until the kind of game I dream about comes around the bend, playing this is great fun - I just tend to mind my p's and q's while paying attention to my p's and g's

Besides ever salvage a gold item instead of ID it, by accident, twice - yup, that's me!

Lord Bong · Aug 24, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

SCAMMERS = kick and ban them all !!!

Dazzler · Aug 24, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34

The thing that makes scamming suck and that we should not have to "just deal with it" is once the scam is done, you have no recourse. There are no police to goto. You can't grab the guy and physically force him to give the item/gold back. You cannot follow him out of town then ambush him. Basically the scams being worked take advantage of the limitations of the gaming constraints--these constraints exist so that towns are not full of a bunch of griefers running around and hacking down n00bs and stealing their meager posessions, which is what I understand happened in the PVP shards of UO. Heh that must have been a sight to see.

Mhydrian · Aug 24, 2005, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Check you screen before acceting. I highly doubt it magically switched to 20g. However the guy ripping you off should be banned. Dont need that kind of scum in the game.

ecto bomb · Aug 24, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Lord Bong

when i sold a item,it said 20p, but when trade ended it was saying 20g,now if he can do that to me,anybody can get scammed from him,can that player get banned from gw - game???

Okay First of u do know there is 2 sections of the trade window (one plat, one gold) Second off u said if they can ban that player.....who is this player more info would be helpful!

ecto bomb · Aug 24, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

only if you return the item/plat and say you are just roleplaying.

otherwise you are simply a thief

sorry for double-post but.......lol

Divine Elemental · Aug 24, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

HaHa

no ways of scam only idiots get scamed
check before u trade u cant complain about being a idiot

Count Feanor · Aug 24, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20

There are low-lifes everywhere without morals. Don't be surprised if you get scammed. Scammers only care about themselves and never consider others in their actions. What goes around, comes around. I'm sure they will live long fulfilled lives [sarcastic].

NIB · Aug 25, 2005, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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can you get banned for scamming anyway? Maybe somepeople like to Roleplay as a sneaky thief. Is this not allowed in guild wars?

As in real life, in gw you have to freedom to do whatever you want. And then pay the price for your actions. So you can roleplay a thief if you like, ripping off ppl but then there is a chance of getting caught. And the punishment for a thief is banning the account("death sentence"). Simple.

Ghost of Perdition · Aug 25, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59

If I'm making a big trade, I ALWAYS take a bunch of screenshots during the process. That way if I do get scammed somehow there is a little bit of evidence to show with the report that I WILL make. Its against the EULA to do that crap. It might not make any difference I guess, but it gives me a sense of security. I've been lucky though, and have never been scammed, so I'm not really sure how it would work, lol.

And Divine, you are basically a prick

Ole Man Bourbon · Aug 25, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Heh you're pretty much on your own in these games: screenies are meaningless as they can be photoshopped and the CSRs don't spend time carefully verifying their authenticities to settle disputes. Just don't get scammed, and take solace in the fact that at least you're not someone who tries to steal fake money in a computer game.

Aug 24, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#22
Gwahir Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Urban Heros Profession: W/Mo	can you get banned for scamming anyway? Maybe somepeople like to Roleplay as a sneaky thief. Is this not allowed in guild wars?

Aug 24, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40	#24
B3H Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mid-West Guild: Cheer Up Emo Kid [EMO] Profession: W/R	A friend of mine was screwed out of 70k and ended up with 70gp. The guy changed it so fast that my friend had no time to respond at all. Maybe its a program?

Aug 24, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42	#25
Gamba Chimelu Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: W/Mo	no one ever gets banned permanently for scamming, thats why they keep doing it, report whoever you want with whatever evidence you have, from what ive read the most that will happen is they may get temporary ban of a day or two

Aug 24, 2005, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#27
tlr1293 Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Guild: [RoK] Riddle of Kings Profession: R/Mo	Personally, I'm not against any of this. What say someday a game comes out where things are as close to what real life may be, in a period style game such as GW, and things just happen. - you go to trade, they drop out, the item drops to ground, they pick up and run (then you pull out a throwing dagger, because you are an outstanding member of the Thives Guild and a dagger is a tool of your profession, and make a nice throw catching the scammer beween the shoulder blades. Better get to your item before it runs off again. - complete open country from end to end of the 'map', real life WTF, and picture you step into a tavern, join a group to go seek revenge on the Baron who stole some guy's sster away and has placed her into some slavery bond - you wander, make friends, enemies, fight monsters in hordes and small groups, or solo, hide behind bushes to shake the demons following you after that battle at the mouth of their cave where half your party was killed. - magic is everywhere, but you must learn to master it - LEARN, not just run to a Wizard, click a button, protect for 2 minutes from enemies and POOF! you now know magic. - become aknight with the king's army to advance on another king's country, only to get lost on a recon mission - ending up near some cave where a bunch of bones are scattered about, hearing strange noises coming from within and succumbing to the same demons you barely escaped 6 months earlier - you then find out that whe you die, you really do not die, but end up transported to another part of the known map (keep dieing and you just might get back to where you first started) - every where is a new learning experience within the same world I could keep going, but you get the idea - an actual alternate world where crap happens and you deal with it. GW is a great game and until the kind of game I dream about comes around the bend, playing this is great fun - I just tend to mind my p's and q's while paying attention to my p's and g's Besides ever salvage a gold item instead of ID it, by accident, twice - yup, that's me!

Aug 24, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#28
Lord Bong Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/W	SCAMMERS = kick and ban them all !!!

Aug 24, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#29
Dazzler Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Profession: E/Me	The thing that makes scamming suck and that we should not have to "just deal with it" is once the scam is done, you have no recourse. There are no police to goto. You can't grab the guy and physically force him to give the item/gold back. You cannot follow him out of town then ambush him. Basically the scams being worked take advantage of the limitations of the gaming constraints--these constraints exist so that towns are not full of a bunch of griefers running around and hacking down n00bs and stealing their meager posessions, which is what I understand happened in the PVP shards of UO. Heh that must have been a sight to see.

Aug 24, 2005, 09:26 PM // 21:26	#30
Mhydrian Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: R/Me	Check you screen before acceting. I highly doubt it magically switched to 20g. However the guy ripping you off should be banned. Dont need that kind of scum in the game.

Aug 24, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#33
Divine Elemental Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Your House Guild: I Used To Own [ IUTO ]	HaHa no ways of scam only idiots get scamed check before u trade u cant complain about being a idiot

Aug 24, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20	#34
Count Feanor Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hellsing Organization or... RIGHT BEHIND YOU!! Guild: The Royal Priesthood Profession: N/W	There are low-lifes everywhere without morals. Don't be surprised if you get scammed. Scammers only care about themselves and never consider others in their actions. What goes around, comes around. I'm sure they will live long fulfilled lives [sarcastic].

Aug 25, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59	#36
Ghost of Perdition Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: none Profession: N/	If I'm making a big trade, I ALWAYS take a bunch of screenshots during the process. That way if I do get scammed somehow there is a little bit of evidence to show with the report that I WILL make. Its against the EULA to do that crap. It might not make any difference I guess, but it gives me a sense of security. I've been lucky though, and have never been scammed, so I'm not really sure how it would work, lol. And Divine, you are basically a prick

Aug 25, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31	#37
Ole Man Bourbon Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: GONG Profession: W/E	Heh you're pretty much on your own in these games: screenies are meaningless as they can be photoshopped and the CSRs don't spend time carefully verifying their authenticities to settle disputes. Just don't get scammed, and take solace in the fact that at least you're not someone who tries to steal fake money in a computer game.